# Welcome to NHSbuntu! **Category:** [NHoS/NHSbuntu](https://openhealthhub.org/c/nhos/35) **Created:** 2017-04-25 18:11 UTC **Views:** 13702 **Replies:** 43 **URL:** https://openhealthhub.org/t/welcome-to-nhsbuntu/908 --- ## Post #1 by @pacharanero Following a good reception at our inaugural outing, the South West CIO Forum today, we've launched NHSbuntu to the wider world. Here's our initial presentation on NHSbuntu in a variety of formats: NHSbuntu meets South West CIOs & CCIOs.pdf (869.1 KB) NHSbuntu meets South West CIOs & CCIOs.odp (1.8 MB) NHSbuntu meets South West CIOs & CCIOs.pptx (2.7 MB) If you've been trying out NHSbuntu, please do feed back your experiences with it in this forum. We also have a Slack team, for instant messaging, at https://nhsbuntu.slack.com, please email marcusbaw@gmail.com if you'd like to be invited to that Slack. If you'd like the NHSbuntu team to come to your NHS organisation and do a 'Show & Tell' of what NHSbuntu is, what problems it solves, and how you can use it in your organisation, then please do contact us (use the above email address, or a post in this forum to contact us) Marcus, Rob, Kenny, Tony and the rest of the NHSbuntu team --- ## Post #2 by @pacharanero Further information on NHSbuntu is available at our website http://nhsbuntu.openhealthhub.org, including the download link for our latest .iso. --- ## Post #3 by @paultargett Marcus, really interesting proposition. We run all of our services on linux. I'm presuming there are no licensing restrictions for use? We will download and install on our local N3 network and provide feedback. Thanks, Paul. --- ## Post #4 by @pacharanero There shouldn't be any restrictions in the license as to your use, other than then normal license that we inherit from Ubuntu itself, which is detailed [here](https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/licensing). We're not adding anything to NHSbuntu that would affect the redistributability or sharealike features of Ubuntu base. Thanks for trying out NHSbuntu, and we'd be really grateful for your feedback. --- ## Post #5 by @adrian.wilkins Have you done much to it besides setting up Evolution? (which I regard as an odd choice, given that Thunderbird is now the default distribution email client - I've had it working reasonably well with Exchange servers. I confess I gave up on Evolution as being horribly clunky ages ago). As a user of Ubuntu for my daily workload for over 10 years I'll be interested to see what tweaks you've made. Thoroughly concur with your assessment of the economics of the EWA, as you know - the NHS was spending about 9 figures on it (or so I heard). A mere 5% of that distributed to open-source projects would net you a LOT more control over what you got for your money - even a customer as large as the NHS is not terribly influential to a behemoth like Microsoft. I suspect the reason Microsoft decided it was no longer a good idea was because such a large budget line-item looks ripe for reduction and NHSbuntu is a very logical way to do that. --- Caveats : the sheer number of horrible VBA applications around the place cannot be underestimated. An ecosystem of consultancy services devoted to converting these to LibreOffice macros (or better application platforms, where applicable) is probably required for this kind of sea change to take place. Likewise training on OSS applications, etc. Horrors based on Sharepoint are probably also a speedbump here. This, of course, is the reason Microsoft promotes the creation of horrors based on Sharepoint so enthusiastically. --- ## Post #6 by @adrian.wilkins And... because other less friendly folks will do it less pleasantly, a rebuttal for your document :- Windows has had full disk encryption included ([BitLocker](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitLocker)) since Windows Vista (certainly in the "enterprisey" versions that the NHS should be using). --- ## Post #7 by @pacharanero So why are so many trusts buying another product on top of BitLocker? I guess some of them have a significant XP estate, so that would be one use-case. --- ## Post #8 by @robdykedotcom NHSbuntu is built from Ubuntu GNOME. We created a 'defaults' package - [nhsbuntu-default-settings](https://github.com/open-health-hub/nhsbuntu-default-settings) - which sets configurations for: * Desktop theme, wallpaper, icons etc * GNOME3 extensions for panels and menus * Browser defaults for the homepage & adding bookmarks * Installer slideshow The defaults package is also used to add / remove components from the installation. We created our own graphical bootloader with a spinning logo! See [nhsbuntu-plymouth-gnome](https://github.com/open-health-hub/nhsbuntu-plymouth-gnome) We've used Evolution for a couple of reasons: 1. Evolution is the default mail client in GNOME. 2. GNOME Online Accounts 'just worked' with NHSMail2. 3. Evolution Exchange Web Services 'just worked' with NHSMail2. We've signed and published these packages in [our PPA on Launchpad](https://launchpad.net/~nhsbuntu/+archive/ubuntu/ppa). We use ubuntu-defaults-image to build the ISO from the settings package. /rob --- ## Post #9 by @robdykedotcom We said "_few (none?) products cover legacy operating systems_". If you've got some examples of enterprisey encryption products with support for Windows versions from XP to 10 please share them! --- ## Post #10 by @robdykedotcom Thanks @paultargett --- ## Post #11 by @pacharanero 4 posts were merged into an existing topic: [Email, Calendaring, NHSMail2 and Exchange Integration](/t/email-calendaring-nhsmail2-and-exchange-integration/914) --- ## Post #14 by @paultargett Guys, I think its best not to get pulled into the good vs evil debate on Microsoft desktop - will suck light and day. Need to focus on a use case that makes it an easy decision. Also need to think about how staff and IT managers are won over. There's a communication thing here too. Something for Code4Health I think.... --- ## Post #15 by @stephen.slough have to agree with you Adrian. We have Windows 10 deployed with Bitlocker, Office 365 etc. just about to deploy to 800 GP's and support staff too as part of a primary care update programme. Also need to consider ongoing support costs for NHSbunto. Will some form of managed service be developed? I know it is great being all agile and innovative, but stablity and reliability of a client service will have to be assured somehow. Don't get me wrong, it is ultimately one of the ways forward, but with eyes open.... --- ## Post #16 by @pacharanero @stephen.slough Absolutely with eyes open, and we think the future will of course be a mix of all kinds of different operating systems including Windows. Really good to have your honest feedback and involvement. --- ## Post #17 by @robdykedotcom Hi @stephen.slough You ask questions that I do not have answers for. I hope you will help us get to some answers though! On support. What do you do now in your organisation? In your example of deploying 800 GPs to W10 & Office 365, I guess you are migrating from _something_ and not deploying into a greenfield site. So let's say, for arguments sake, that you've got a deployment of 800ish Windows 7 and Office 2007 desktops. You'll have a people on your service desk and in your infrastructure team, some trainers, a library of support materials and howto guides. You will have invested in MOS certification for power users as well as MCPs for your service desk staffers and MCSEs for those in your infrastructure team. These people will be crucial to the success of your deployment. You would ensure that you equip these people with the skills needed for to support the new technologies as you migrate. And let's not forget the 800 GP's! No doubt you will have tested, tested and tested again all the applications that they use every day to ensure that everything works in the new environment. You will have provided training sessions for them, and as you knew they would not have time to attend you will at least have made sure that you got one person from every practice along so that at least someone would be your onsite expert. Okay, perhaps I exaggerate a little. However, what would be difference if you were migrating to Apple OS X and not Windows 10. Or migrating to NHSbuntu for that matter? Supporting the technology in your organisation has a cost today, it will have a cost tomorrow as you migrate and it will continue to have a cost the day after. On managed services. Canonical and Red Hat, the two major open source OS companies, both offer Professional Services and Support Services with a range of Service Level Agreements. Could you tell me about the support services you currently get from Microsoft? I am sure that you could get the same from open source vendors. [Collabora](https://www.collaboraoffice.com/community-en/odf-for-cloud-communication-added-to-government-catalogue/), for example, offer Libre Office services. Canonical and Red Hat are also on gCloud. --- ## Post #18 by @richarddobson Some info I'm sure many of you are aware of, but may help those who aren't... The city of munich some ten years ago made a large scale switch to a tailored linux version - LiMux. This has provided some real insight into the viability of Linux desktop at scale. Well worth having a google, as there are many articles on the learnings to date. Unfortunately (imho) the city is now looking at switching to windows 10, backed up by a report authored by accenture (microsoft partner) and by pro-microsoft execs. some links: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2014/07/07/ubuntu-and-open-source-help-the-city-of-munich-save-millions/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/why-munich-should-stick-with-linux/ --- ## Post #19 by @harrisoa This looks really interesting, unfortunately I'm unable to access what I understand to be the download location at http://nhsbuntu.openhealthhub.org/ and just get a 404 error instead. Am I looking in the right place? --- ## Post #20 by @pacharanero Hi Andrew, we recently switched our web stuff to http://www.nhsbuntu.org and are having some DNS issues with nhsbuntu.openhealthhub.org. So please use https://www.nhsbuntu.org from now on Marcus --- ## Post #21 by @kenni3958 Whilst Bitlocker has been included in Windows since Vista, you need the Enterprise Edition to run it, which wasn't included in the EWA licenses for Windows 7. The costs vary for Enterprise, depending on your Windows OEM Version and where you are in your cycle of either Microsoft Select Plus, since replaced with Microsoft Products and Services Agreement (MPSA), or via an Enterprise Agreement, which means you own the software, or an ESA, which is basically rental. The last batch of 150 PCs we bought, which Dell still ship with Windows 7 OEM, costs £190ish per device for an Enterprise license. So even though Bitlocker is included it costs! To manage it across your estate you either need MBAM (Microsoft Bitlocker Administration and Monitoring tool), which requires an Enterprise agreement covering your whole estate, or another option, such as Sophos Endpoint, which is a lot cheaper, but we also run Microsoft Direct Access, which again requires an Enterprise license, so whichever way you do it, you end up paying the MSOFT Tax! Since the demise of the NHS EWA, I dread to think what the NHS has spent on MSOFT licensing, and upskilling its staff to ensure it knows what it is doing! MSOFT licensing is a black art.. --- ## Post #22 by @Grant Having used Evolution EWS on both Ubuntu and CentOS, must say it's more stable on Ubuntu as the repos deliver a much newer version but even so, it can be quite flaky. I abandoned it in favour of the latest version of Davmail which works like a charm with Thunderbird. Worth having the option of both ? --- ## Post #23 by @ukgp Hi does evolution connect automatically if you are running it from home ? ie not on a N3 line, if not what are the configuration details . Ta --- ## Post #24 by @gary.kennington David, Yes, once configured Evolution will connect to whichever network you are on, WIFI, N3, 4G, 3G etc. It is easy enough to set up. Let me know if you need any config help Gary IT Operations Manager NHS South Devon and Torbay CCG Pomona House Torquay TQ2 7FF Tel: 01803 652583 Mob: 07500127083 --- ## Post #25 by @bscho I have passed your disc to Jeremy Hunt and he was extremely interested. He is passing it on to his tech people. I note two problems which urgently need to be sorted out. If you can do the first I will give him the updated version. 1. Virtualbox doesn't load with sudo apt-get install virtualbox. It shows an error in the terminal. This is necessary for those windows application and drivers not available with Linux and it is a must to be repaired. 2. The email is extremely dated and no software is in the system to load Thunderbird. Can you treat these as a priority before the tech guys give it a thumbs down because of this. --- ## Post #26 by @ukgp Oh yes please , can you send me the settings ? Thank you Best wishes David Dr David Howard Pemberley Surgery Dr Howard & Partners 32 Pemberley Avenue Bedford MK40 2LA 01234 351051 Bedford Locality Chair Bedford Clinical Commissioning Group Tel: 01234 263873 PA :-Email: cerys.peck@bedfordshireccg.nhs.uk Address: Gilbert Hitchcock House, 21 Kimbolton Road, Bedford, MK40 2AW --- ## Post #27 by @bscho I am not sure what settings you want. I am sending you the disc in the post today. --- ## Post #28 by @bscho Don't use evolution it is dated. Use thunderbird. Load it from a terminal with sudo apt-get install thunderbird. You will then find it in applications/internet thunderbird mail. --- ## Post #29 by @iain Hi, can I ask what packages you have added to your distribution? The reason I ask this is because I have been a Debian evangelist for some time, which became Ubuntu but I found most standard users got frustrated with the GUI and on a dual boot for home use would soon ask to make Windows the default Grub boot, until Mint turned up. Mint with the Cinnamon desktop is by far and away the easiest transition onto Debian from Windows and Macs, the desktop layout very much aping Win7 and MacOSX. I've stopped being asked to reconfigure Grub. As Mint is essentially Ubuntu with a nicer GUI, what works in your distribution will work in Mint and packaged that way, enable the majority of NHS support staff who have, majoritively, only ever had training on Windows machines, to transition more smoothly. If I'm missing something I apologise, I decided to go talk to the GPs practices round about me after the Wanacry virus and finding you has been part of me boning up on what an NHS PC requires. I'm downloading your distribution now to have a look at, but the Mint issue does seem immediately obvious. Cheers and Thank You for being here. Iain --- ## Post #30 by @pacharanero Hi Iain, Glad to have another Mint evangelist in the gang! I'm a long-time user of Mint and I think, as you do, that Cinnamon is probably the way to go. Unity is being dropped (and is too weird for many people), and Gnome3 is quite graphically resource heavy, meaning it is less likely to perform well on our target 5-10 year old NHS machine. We're seriously considering the switch to shipping a customised 'NHSbuntu' Mint as opposed to Gnome3. Your comments are very helpful. In terms of what we have added, much of NHSbuntu is actually removal of unnecessary packages, with a few utility additions like Remmina. Then there's branding and UI tweaks to make it as acceptable as possible in the NHS. We also have to develop some stuff that doesn't yet exist in the Ubuntu/Linux world, such as a native Linux NHS smart card client, which is crucial to success. And a huge amount of NHSbuntu is simply evangelism, marketing, and persuasion - to get people to try out something new, that they are unfamiliar with and that (perhaps) threatens their professional standing. M --- ## Post #31 by @josebonilla Hi Marcus. Here in Ecuador, we are making a transition to Linux by installing some Ubuntu flavors national wide across health centers, hospitals and administrative units. We use mainly default LTS Ubuntu and Mint, but would like to define a unique desktop SO. At this time, we are installing Linux Mint 18.1 in central goverment units (about 1000+ users), and I would be glad to share our experience with your team. Also, I would like to get some advice about security and interoperability, but also implementation best practices and challenges. I have read some info about security issues with Mint, so any suggestion about security hardening and large scale implementation would be really helpful. I agree that also resistance to change is one of the main issues besides ICT effort. Please, write me if you need any futher information, and do not bother to ask about any info you need from us about our implementation experience. --- ## Post #32 by @pacharanero Hi Jose, great to know you working on similar projects in Ecuador. Glad also that your choice of distros aligns well with ours. (it has been suggested by some people in the UK that Ubuntu/Debian derived distros are insecure and that we should use CentOS for example. We don't agree, hence why I'm encouraged to see others using Ubuntu derivs) By all means ask questions on our forums here about security and interoperability, we may have some ideas also about large scale implementation, but we can't claim to have any direct experience there. Great to hear form you, and stay in touch! Marcus --- ## Post #33 by @bjthinker Hi Marcus, I am new here, but not new to the NHS Linux problem, so to get an inside track on attitude, I sent the following email to NHS England. ---------- Re: Freedom of Information request (Our Ref: FOI-053567) Thank you for your Freedom of Information (FOI) request dated 26 May 2017. Your exact request was: “Many thanks for your assistance so far and may I ask the following questions. 1. What plans, past, present and future, does the NHS have for the use of Linux as a server and desktop operating system. 2. What plans, past, present and future, does the NHS have for the use of Open Source Software, for example Open Office, Firefox and Thunderbird. 3. Are there any plans to evaluate NHSbuntu, www.nhsbuntu.org , as a replacement for Windows XP or Windows 7 on the desktop. 4. Given the massive part that Linux plays as a server platform on the Internet and as the basis of the Android OS, does the NHS have a sufficiently large number of Linux trained individuals to entertain an increase in the use of this OS? 5. Are there any Forums or Blogs that allow interested individuals or groups to participate in the making of NHS Digital policy on subjects of this kind?” NHS England holds some of this information. 1. What plans, past, present and future, does the NHS have for the use of Linux as a server and desktop operating system. We can only reply on behalf of NHS England as each NHS organisation is responsible for its own IT strategies. NHS England has no plans to implement Linux 2. What plans, past, present and future, does the NHS have for the use of Open Source Software, for example Open Office, Firefox and Thunderbird. NHS England use Firefox as part of our managed desktop service. NHS England have no plans to use other Open Source Software. 3. Are there any plans to evaluate NHSbuntu, www.nhsbuntu.org , as a replacement for Windows XP or Windows 7 on the desktop. NHS England has no plans in this area. 4. Given the massive part that Linux plays as a server platform on the Internet and as the basis of the Android OS, does the NHS have a sufficiently large number of Linux trained individuals to entertain an increase in the use of this OS? Taking in to account the answers above, NHS England have no plans to employ Linux trained staff. 5. Are there any Forums or Blogs that allow interested individuals or groups to participate in the making of NHS Digital policy on subjects of this kind? NHS England does not hold this information ---------- So there is the problem. "There are none so blind as those that simply don't want to look" Who, I wonder, is the guy who has the power to change this? I doubt it is the Minister. Am I wrong about this? Thanks bjthinker --- ## Post #34 by @pacharanero I would agree that the journey is going to be very much an uphill one. The rapidity of the turnaround on that FOI to NHS England suggests that they didn't spend much time ascertaining the facts. Whenever I've made FOI requests they normally take several weeks. NHS England probably aren't in a position to know much about the tech, because they commission that service from NHS Digital. So they probably answered truthfully, in that they (NHS England) have no plans to do any of this Linuxy stuff. I wonder if the same FOI sent to NHS Digital might yield a little more info. I know for a fact that NHS Digital is planning a hack week on NHSbuntu at the end of June, because I am going to it, as are some of the rest of the team. But given that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand's doing most of the time, I wouldn't be at all surprised if NHS Digital responded the same. Equally I wouldn't be put off by it either. **Open source is going to happen to them, whether they like it or not, whether they welcome it or try to put it off.** It's just the scientific method - and open, evidence based computing - coming to Medicine. Marcus --- ## Post #35 by @bjthinker Dear Marcus, Thanks so much for your input. Yes it started with NHS Digital ---------- Ref: NIC-114490-W8Q9V Dear Giles, Thank you for your email. Unfortunately, we are unable to assist with your below enquiry, as we do not hold the requested information. NHS Digital is a Public Body, whose main responsibilities are the collection, analysis and publication of health and social care data and statistics. We are also responsible for the delivery and support of a number of key IT infrastructure projects for the NHS. Further information about our organisation can be found on our website: http://www.digital.nhs.uk/about-us We have passed this to our Technology and Release Manager who has advised to progress your enquiry, please contact NHS England on 0300 311 22 33 or email england.contactus@nhs.net who will be able to assist you. We hope this helps. Kind Regards, Adam Winecor Contact Centre Team NHS Digital www.digital.nhs.uk 0300 303 5678 enquiries@nhsdigital.nhs.uk 1 Trevelyan Square | Boar Lane | Leeds | LS1 6AE ---------- I have been here before. It is hard to see one's target behind "The Impenetrable Edifice of Open Government", but there is always a way. Often doxxing can get one close. I am greatly heartened to hear of the linux hack week, and so soon! May I ask if there is any chance you could keep us up to date here on any progress? And may I wish you all the very best of progress. bjthinker PS There was a time when the Cabinet Office under Francis Maude was planning to embrace Linux. Does anyone know if it ever happened? --- ## Post #36 by @pacharanero Nice work! - you've been busy on the FOI front to be sure :slight_smile: I'll keep people posted on the hack week. The Cabinet Office thing made some inroads towards use of open standards for document formats etc, but Maude moved on and everything's ground to a halt it seems. --- ## Post #37 by @iain That is because people don't understand that Debian/Ubuntu(/Mint) is not only the safest user friendly desktop operating system it is also, if you account for the time and the professional input and coding the most expensively crafted operating system in the world. The Linux family of Operating Systems looks confusing at first but there are really only three strains Redhat, Slackware (Arch is Slackware even if it's ground up build :-) and Debian. Most of the secure servers in the world run on Redhat and Debian equally secure has the most apps built for it because of it's high adoption rate. I'm not saying this because you don't know but I like the idea of working on a pitch and I get that the number one issue is that most people just don't know what Linux is. The other big sell is talking about virus management. Torvalds has a quote like "With a wide community any bug is shallow" ie BECAUSE Linux is not propriety and constrained by restrictive canonical version control, if a weakness or an exploit is exposed then, not a patch but a definitive fix is very quickly, collectively, crafted. I found it very interesting that after the Wikileaks Vault 7 release there was a flurry of updates to my system. Out of interest I turned on a windows machine to see how it behaved and there was very little. - Of course it's always good to point out just how much of your system resources are chewed up by friends like Norton or Kaspersky. I think craft is a good word because if I had to define Linux or Debian, I find that Art or better Public Art, - Public Mathematical Art is the best descriptive. Like all great art it has been forged from a heady mix of ego and love and some (if not all) of the greatest Unix coders in the world have contributed including both students and professors. I have a couple of questions for the development team. I've got NHSubuntu on a stick now and booted it up on Thursday and I'm seriously impressed even if I don't know what half of it does. Couple of things sprung to mind. You have developed this to run in a health trust, a hospital, but I'm guessing a GPs surgery doesn't need a lot of it. As GPs are a private partnership, it is easier for them to make decisions and that is the easiest pitch. Getting a swathe of GPs signed up, getting them confident, is going to help a Trust's management team have the confidence to start rolling it out. I noticed That you ask for 10% of a units previous budget to provide professional support, does that mean remote desktopping? and do you have a pitch along the lines of why it will be secure? --- ## Post #38 by @dalmolin ... for what it's worth Mint also runs quite well on prehistoric hardware... I have been using it on an indestructible IBM T42P vintage 2005 for 3 years (2 Gb ram, solid state disk). I have used Linux as my desktop for 15 years and Windows when necessary... Mint is by far the best UI/distro I've used. I second Marcus's comment that Linux use is inevitable.... the open evidence based innovation model is an obviously natural fit for medicine/health. With digital "interventions" having achieved "life critical" status quite some time ago, it's baffling evidence based peer review of software is taking so long to catch on.... but it will. Joseph --- ## Post #39 by @bscho Me too Mint18.1 --- ## Post #40 by @bscho Jeremy Hunt has a copy of NHSbuntu which he has given to his technical team. Linux is also being used in the Education departement. --- ## Post #41 by @johnbarbrook Awesome. How did I not know about your team. I am positively excited! I am part of the team running the technology jam at the East of England and Midlands librarians conference, and I am making sure to have a laptop running NHSbuntu available for all the NHS Librarians to try. I have been advocating for the use of Linux and Mobile Devices in libraries for 7 years now, mainly for cost saving reasons but most importantly that the IT systems require significantly maintenance. We once ran an NHS education centres WiFi over two buildings, 12 access points with DDWRT boxes and and Ubuntu Machines running smoke-ping for network monitoring, all tied into a (then) wildly fast fibre asynchronous broadband connection. It was both highly resilient and never ever went down, and It cost approximately £100 a year to run (outside of the fibre costs). Are there any key talking points that differentiate NHSbuntu from a base Ubuntu Installation that I should be aware of when we get the Librarians excited? Any key integration that has taken a lot of your time? Thanks for making my week NHSbuntu team. John --- ## Post #42 by @pacharanero @johnbarbrook great to hear from you and glad we'e made your week! In terms of what differentiates NHSbuntu from stock Ubuntu the main thing that took *ages* was deciding on exactly the correct shade of blue to use in order to maximally enrage the DoH Brand Police :slight_smile: More seriously, there are many small differences, but mainly we have optimised NHSbuntu to work out of the box with the kinds of services that we know are in use in the NHS - so we have email clients that work with NHSmail2, we make sure Active Directory foo works well, and we now have a Proof Of Concept Identity Agent (for NHS Smart Cards). What we aim to do is to provide as much of the configuration out-of-the-box as possible, so that Trust IT teams can spend less time on local configurations, and more time on the important things. --- ## Post #43 by @AFowle Just come across NHSBuntu following link in The Register today. I will try to give it a spin later. Great idea, BUT I'm a long term user of OpenSuse with KDE. Is there any reason that your modifications eg an NHS Email client, won't work on other versions of linux and desktop? If not now, then in the future? Also I cannot see that this type of question has been asked so far on the forum, but I am sure it will be - does it merit a thread of its own, or a description somewhere? Adrian --- ## Post #44 by @adrian.wilkins > the correct shade of blue to use in order to maximally enrage the DoH Brand Police I may have the actual brand manuals somewhere, complete with Pantone™ colour charts.... --- ## Post #45 by @dunmail All you ever wanted to know (and more) about NHS branding: https://www.england.nhs.uk/nhsidentity/ Colours are here: https://www.england.nhs.uk/nhsidentity/identity-guidelines/colours/ NHS Blue is: #005EB8 --- ## Post #46 by @robdykedotcom From 2012.... http://www.robdyke.com/rdb/2012/03/19/nhs-branding-for-healthcare-apps-2/ --- **Canonical:** https://openhealthhub.org/t/welcome-to-nhsbuntu/908 **Original content:** https://openhealthhub.org/t/welcome-to-nhsbuntu/908