# Supporting existing systems **Category:** [NHoS/NHSbuntu](https://openhealthhub.org/c/nhos/35) **Created:** 2017-07-18 12:06 UTC **Views:** 5228 **Replies:** 11 **URL:** https://openhealthhub.org/t/supporting-existing-systems/1099 --- ## Post #1 by @NHS_Informatics This distro seems interesting and its now been forwarded onto a number of individuals in IT management, but I know that one of the fears will be disruption to existing services and continued support for those systems and software (current and deprecated) if trialling another OS. Have you approached any Trusts in regards to their current needs? My Trust currently supports a number of systems across many sites which would make it difficult to consider such a move. Have you reviewed which software is being used across the NHS and whether there is a clear solution or alternative to use in its place? Is there a clear point of contact and a development roadmap for NHSbuntu? Software currently being supported across many sites and departments - Adobe Acrobat Pro Auditbase BadgerNet Bloodtrack CAM Cris V.3 Live Cardioview CareStream Pacs CCube Solutions CD Decryption ChemoCare Choose & Book Training Cisco AnyConnect Cisco IP Communicator Cisco UCCX Agent Desktop Software COHORT Co-Pilot Health Management System Docman Dragon Dictation ECG Viewer EDMS EMIS WEB ESR Self Service GI Reporting Tool Gemsafe Graphnet HEIDELBERG Hemochron Heritage Cirqa Library Software Imprivata SSO Desktop Software iPM PAS Irfanview Irisoft Lexacom Lilie Little Green Button Lorenzo Lotus Notes Qlikview MapOfMedicine Medicon Cardiology MediRisk MEDISOFT Medway NHSIA Live Opera (not the web browser) Ormis Paris Sage Sophos Endpoint Protection Skype for Business SoelHealth Dental Sostenuto Therefore TickerTape T-Path Zebra Software --- ## Post #2 by @adrian.wilkins The catch-all answer is : you can run Windows in a VM for any specific needs that don't run on Linux. My initial response to this was to open a spreadsheet with this list in it to start enumerating the equivalence and [here it is](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1at-obl_GWe7I640vq5uZX5j5q_3oVseblVqFRf4v5PE/edit?usp=sharing), but the answer for so many of these will be "it depends" - mostly on what you're using them for. Many of these are a vast can of worms... many of them could be a storm in a teacup. But! Does NHSBuntu have a wiki yet? Because this is the sort of thing that needs considered and extended documentation. Valuable for enumerating the vast landscape of different bits of software out there and also good for working out what could be quick wins. But... it depends. e.g. IrfanView would appear to be a no-brainer - it's an image viewer. There are lots of FOSS image viewer programs that run on Linux and most desktop distros ship with one or two by default. But is it being used e.g. specifically because it has a 64-bit version that copes well with ginormous radiology images, or does it cope with DICOM formats where others don't etc. --- ## Post #3 by @pacharanero @NHS_Informatics thanks for your interest and also huge thanks for that very nice list of software we will need to play nicely with. We would like to compile a software compatibility list using this - would you be able to help us out with testing access to install media for these packages? Initially we are primarily aiming at supporting backoffice/admin areas of the NHS where there is considerable scope for saving of Microsoft licenses but less challenge from supporting clinical systems. **Anything browser-based will just work** in NHSbuntu (unless it has been perversely engineered specifically for an older IE version. In which case that clinical software will need to be replaced anyway because it's extremely insecure.) I'd be astonished if we can't get something like TPath working in NHSbuntu natively and without much fuss - after all it is simply a TelNet session. As @adrian.wilkins says, for some systems the answer will come from virtualisation of Windows, which can mitigate security concerns of older Windows versions although it won't necessarily save you on MS licenses unless you can aggregate machines on a virtualisation server and have, say, 0.25 to 0.5 machines per user, on the assumption that they are not all on shift and using systems at the same time. Anything Java based **should** be able to be run on NHSbuntu, if it has been written properly (I've found that Windows-based Java shops tend to have scant regard for case-sensitivity, character encodings, and backslash etiquette) In short, I'm confident we can eventually (5 years, say?) get to a point where everything that is still required to be used can be run on NHSbuntu, and for everything else we've either provided an open source alternative or someone else has. Marcus --- ## Post #4 by @pacharanero @adrian.wilkins regarding a wiki let's use GitHub https://github.com/NHSbuntu/nhsbuntu/wiki M --- ## Post #5 by @robdykedotcom An excellent contribution from @NHS_Informatics and @adrian.wilkins. Previously @mranderson had shared a list of software with me (NOTE TO SELF: Reply to Mr Anderson!) and the list from @NHS_Informatics adds to that greatly. I vote for working with the google spreadsheet with the additional of a few columns (e.g. Deployment: Fat Client or Browser; Care Setting: Primary, Acute, Mental Health, etc) /rob SABDFL 'All The Tech' --- ## Post #6 by @NHS_Informatics Current software being used at the Trust. Some of it is old and is being phased out. Adobe Acrobat Pro - PDF Reader/Editor https://acrobat.adobe.com/us/en/acrobat/acrobat-pro.html Auditbase - Audiology Clinic Management https://www.auditdata.com/all-products-and-services/clinic-management/auditbase https://www.auditdata.com/solutions-for-hospitals/auditbase-software-overview BadgerNet - Patient Data Management Services https://www.clevermed.com/about-us/ Bloodtrack - Blood Management and Bedside Transfusion Solutions http://bloodtrack.haemonetics.com/en CAM Cris V.3 Live Cardioview http://www.qrsdiagnostic.com/customer-care/knowledge-base-cardioview-software CareStream Vue PACS http://www.carestream.co.uk/vue-pacs.html CCube Solutions EDRM - Electronic Document Management http://www.ccubesolutions.com/ ChemoCare http://www.cis-healthcare.com/ Choose & Book Training - e-Referral Service http://content.digital.nhs.uk/referrals/chooseandbooktraining Cisco AnyConnect http://www.cisco.com/c/en_uk/products/security/anyconnect-secure-mobility-client/index.html Cisco IP Communicator http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collaboration-endpoints/ip-communicator/index.html Cisco UCCX Agent Desktop Software http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cust_contact/contact_center/crs/express_9_0/installation/guide/UCCX_BK_G4ABFCE0_00_get-start-uccx/UCCX_BK_G4ABFCE0_00_get-start-uccx_chapter_01000.html Cohort - Occupational Health Software http://cohort.medgatesoftware.co.uk/ Co-Pilot Health Management System - Blood Glucose and Diabetes Management https://www.myfreestyle.com/copilot-software Docman - Electronic Document Management Software http://www.docman.com/ Dragon Dictation http://www.nuance.co.uk/dragon/index.htm ECG Viewer http://www.ecg-soft.com/ecgviewer/ecgviewer.htm EDMS - Electronic Document Management System http://transformation.sth.nhs.uk/programme/edms/ EMIS WEB - Integrated Healthcare Clinical System https://www.emishealth.com/products/emis-web/ ESR Self Service http://www.electronicstaffrecord.nhs.uk/esr-operational/functionality/self-service/ Unisoft GI Reporting Tool http://www.unisoftmedical.co.uk/gastrointestinal_medicine_gi_tool_adult.asp Gemalto http://support.gemalto.com/ Graphnet http://www.graphnethealth.com/ Ophthalmic Capital Equipment Heidelberg SPECTRALIS - Diagnostic Imaging Platform https://www.heidelbergengineering.co.uk/ http://www.optometryweb.com/6419-Optical-Coherence-Tomography-OCT-Equipment-Optical-Coherent-Tomography-Machines/3941784-SPECTRALIS-sup-reg-sup-HRA-OCT/ Hemochron http://www.accriva.com/products/hemochron-signature-elite-whole-blood-microcoagulation-system Heritage Cirqa Library Management Software https://isoxford.com/heritage/core Imprivata SSO Desktop Software https://www.imprivata.co.uk/uk/single-sign-on-sso iPM Lorenzo PAS - electronic patient record system https://www.dxc.technology/healthcare?merger=true https://www.digitalhealth.net/2012/10/think-again-about-lorenzo/ https://www.digitalhealth.net/2016/07/lorenzo-the-end-of-the-beginning/ Irfanview http://www.irfanview.com/ Compuscope http://www.irisoft.co.uk/index.php/home/ Lexacom - Digital Dictation https://www.lexacom.co.uk/ https://www.emishealth.com/products/lexacom-3/ Lilie - Sexual Health EPM Software http://6pmsolutions.com/products/clinical/lilie Little Green Button - Software Panic Button http://www.littlegreenbutton.com/ Lotus Notes http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/ibmnotes Qlikview http://www.perfect.bi/qlikview/?gclid=CMH7iPuGk9UCFe4A0wodyuEGfQ MapOfMedicine - Healthcare Management http://mapofmedicine.com/ Medicor Cardiology http://www.medicor.com/ Medirisk https://www.medirisk.nl/about-medirisk Medisoft http://www.medisoft.co.uk/ Medway Maternity http://www.systemc.com/our-solutions/medway-maternity/ Centricity Opera http://www3.gehealthcare.co.uk/en-gb/products/categories/healthcare_it/high_acuity_care_solution/centricity_opera Ormis - Theatre Management https://www.medicalsearch.com.au/medical-software-ormis-theatre-management/p/59964 Paris - Digital Care Records Sage - Accounting software www.sage.co.uk Sophos Endpoint Protection https://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/endpoint-antivirus.aspx Skype for Business https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/03/01/the-skype-for-linux-beta-version-5-0-is-now-available-for-download/ SoelHealth Dental http://softwareofexcellence.com/uk/product/soel-health Sostenuto https://www.sunrisesoftware.com/news/sostenuto-itsm-achieves-pinkverify-certification/ Therefore http://www.datatron.co.uk/software/therefore-software/ TickerTape http://www.ambersoftware.co.uk/downloads_tickertape.htm T-Path - Pathology Zebra Software - Label Printing Software https://www.zebra.com/gb/en/products/software.html --- ## Post #7 by @NHS_Informatics After revisiting this topic with other Informatics team members, it seems that Docman would have to be tightly integrated/supported in order for any rollout or testing of a new OS across surgeries etc. https://www.docman.com/docman10/ --- ## Post #8 by @pacharanero Thanks @NHS_Informatics, always useful to know what is required. Much of what you have listed in previous posts is web-based - anything web-based will 'just work' with NHoS. The other stuff - will need work and testing and funding to get right on NHoS. We're always looking for sites that would be interested in partnering with us to run pilot programmes - funding can often be found for this centrally. Would St Helens & Knowsley be interested in partnering? Marcus --- ## Post #9 by @robdykedotcom "Docman 10, a cloud based software platform". And a pretty bit of clipart to show cross-platform-ness. Is Docman 10 cloudy as in 'use any browser' or is it webby as in EMIS web.....? If it is cloudy, NHoS has a browser. --- ## Post #10 by @robdykedotcom --- ## Post #11 by @NHS_Informatics I'm unsure as we are still on Docman 7 but you'd have to work on making 10 the standard app for running. no point in concentrating on 7. --- ## Post #12 by @gary.kennington As Docman 10 is web based, with an alternative client install if required, but not a pre-requisite, then this should not present any issues. I asked our Docman account manager directly this question, and he advised similar gary --- **Canonical:** https://openhealthhub.org/t/supporting-existing-systems/1099 **Original content:** https://openhealthhub.org/t/supporting-existing-systems/1099